JuvSexviolact2017 | 2017/06/03

For those so dangerous, whether disabled or abled, and who commit serious offenses, including sexual offenses onto another student or staff member, One word to the perpetrators!!! EXPELLED=OUT THE DOOR! END OF CONVERSATION!!! Donald Trump and Betsy DeVose, that would be the best Christmas present I could ask for this year is to change the laws on the federal level to expel these serious perpetrators who commit some of the most heinous acts in our schools. Start by bringing back institutions for those who really cannot control violent behavior. IDEA is not the answer or the solution to this problem.

Lavonne | 2017/03/13

The laws are not made to protect them the administrator of these schools are misinterpreting the laws to not get sued. If that student after being investigated is shown to know right from wrong and the behavior is not a manifestation of their disability then they can be punished. These administrators are cowards. And in all these situations nobody speaks of getting the other students to safety. To me they are more important than the one acting a fool. I used to teach but none of my students were crazy enough to attack someone in my room or me because they knew I didn't play. This country needs to get it together.

Substitute | 2017/03/08

I work in pinellas county florida and All the urban schools have that type of risk.The rules designed to protect avg child are now being used as methods of coersion, by street savy antagonistic cgildren.

Rich | 2017/03/07

I am a special ed teacher and we have a student who has an average iq but was put in a special ed class because of behavior. The student has attacked other students and teachers when she hasn't gotten her way. There is no consequence. She can be suspended but isn't. Haven't figured out is this due to the money the school gets for a sped student being in class or fear the parents will threaten lawsuit. Maybe it both! Either way enough is enough and I hope more educators and parents will stand up to these type of kids and parents who back these students up even though they know it's wrong. z

Anne | 2017/02/15

Due to violence in our special education program, I called OSHA and asked what their view was and they said they consider it workplace violence. I called because I was worried about my child and the staff. The teacher can file a complaint and OSHA will go out and investigate. Their view is that if the child is still hitting/hurting the staff, then the plan isn't effective and the school must do something else.

Rapist | 2017/02/12

I hate ******* I hate Jews I hate ***** and arabs too

Andrew | 2017/02/04

It is disturbing to me as an experienced attorney to see teachers so exposed to the risk of workplace injury with so little protection and recourse when students engage in persistent violence. I know of no other occupation where such unsafe conditions posing risk of injury would be allowed to continue unaddressed.

Elizabeth T | 2016/11/07

I am beyond frustrated. My daughter in KINDERGARTEN is dealing with a student with behavior problems. He punched her in the face, stomach, choked her, spit on her, and threatened to bring a knife to school and "cut her neck" and they STILL won't remove him from the class.

Christine Morris | 2016/11/02

A student with autism recently hit me with a desk. I am pressing charges it is a fifth degree felony. I also have a protection order against him and his family coming within 500 feet of me. I am struggling to get back to work and seeing doctors. I may have permanent nerve damage on my left side. A student with a disability of any kind still knows right from wrong and needs to be held accountable.

Mandy | 2016/10/27

I have an autistic daughter in Cdc high school class. On top of anxiety. In her class is a 20 year old "man" . He is violent he goes on attack nearly everyday. The children say when he hits you it feels like being hit with a bat. He attacks the teachers and his aid. He hit lockers , filing cabinets. He tried to throw a desk on top of a girl who was having her floor time. He hit my daughter in the back while she was napping. 2 wks later hit another girl. I am at my wits end . All the laws are made to protect him and not the children or teachers. I am told repeatedly there's nothing I can do . I can't watch the videos because one teacher refuses to sign the consent forms for the video. There is no advocate in my county. If anyone has any advice please send my way . Thanks

Line Drawn | 2016/09/30

There has to be a line drawn somewhere. Send these kids to receive psychiatric help in a mental facility instead of trying to get them to learn subject matter. Keeping kids in schools like this is just setting them up to be tomorrow's inmates. Police won't care if someone was a "special needs kid" when they are being physically abusive past age 18. They'll just end up in jail. There comes a time when people need to face the facts and stop shooting for "productive member of society" and shoot for "not a drain on society" or "criminal offender". You don't ignore an infection or try to put it with non-infected skin so that it can learn through example. You quarantine and heal the infection, or if it gets to be uncontrollable, you amputate. I feel some people are living in lala land and want to ignore reality, but innocent students and teachers are at risk here and by no means should anyone be forced to have to live with that instead of doing their job or getting their rightful education.

Dawn | 2016/09/29

I am 27 weeks pregnant and had a student with a BIP slam a table into my stomach 2 days ago. Minus the bruising, swelling and pain, baby and I checked out ok. I have asked for a transfer from the class for the remainder of my pregnancy. I haven't heard anything back for my administration or HR department. What legal rights do I have?

Special education teacher | 2016/09/27

I recognize that all student have the potential to learn. However, the school is not the place for violent students, PERIOD. Why does the right of one violent person supersede the rights of 100+ other students? As a teacher I did not sigh up to be injured by a student who is purposely attempting to kill me (which is the situation that I have currently been placed in. There needs to be a place where violent students can learn but where they are not going to hurt others. They also need to be taught by teachers who are well-trained in restraint training and helping them overcome their behavior. The regular school district teacher and special education teachers are not those people, and yet we are the ones currently doing the job. Yes, a change needs to occur in the system.

TD | 2016/09/16

TC-your grandsons should be able to get an IEP or 504 if they have a medical diagnosis of adhd. You should check into it and ask their pediatrician. In my state the "label" is other health impaired (OHI), but sometimes varies from state to state. I'm a special teacher and write ieps for OHI students all the time.

TC | 2016/08/31

I have 3 grandsons that are violent because of their upbringing with a drug ridden mother and maternal family that are addicts of one kind or another. they are definitely dyslexic but they refuse to test them. The boys were tested for an IEP and we were told they are normal. WOW I thought I was normal because I minded and didn't get in much trouble. I had no trouble reading but my oldest son their father did. I know they have Dr. Amen's symptoms of ADD and ADHD 7 types. But this well educated Grandmother supposedly doesn't know what she's talking about.

Rob M from Texas | 2016/07/11

Well, I can say that As a student w/ learning disablies. It was and still is hard to work around. But, to As the Movie Couraous Moto says Honor Begins at Home. If we don't instruct our younger genration to try to atleast give them. Some kinda foundation to go by when their young. That a Instuctor is there for their benafit. Not for them to amusement. That they can learn as long as they listen. Also, our younger learn by exsmaple?

Jill | 2016/06/16

None of this is alright. But both parents and teachers need to understand, this isn't about school administrations coddling these kids, or sacrificing the many to protect the few, or not knowing how to handle it - IT IS ABOUT MONEY. THAT IS IT, JUST MONEY. I am the parent of one of these "violent IEP children" with allegedly "no educational potential." Unfortunately, he actually has endless potential and an above average IQ. And you know what? The issue is just as frustrating from this side of the street. I volunteer in his classroom and in school events. I have provided the school reams of information on ways to help my son, to no avail. I am involved more than any other parent I know, including the parents of the neuro-typical kids. The school knows how diligent my husband and I are to get to the bottom of our sons problems. Sadly, before he came to live with us, he was subjected to horrible trauma. The general masses are not trauma-informed, but think of PTSD, caused in infancy. It actually changes the way the brain develops. (Read The Boy Who Was Raised as a Dog by Dr. Bruce Perry) I had to beg the school for an IEP in order to try to get him educational services for dyslexia, and processing disorders. Yet, all they wanted to focus on was his behavior issues. We never got any educational support, or mental health support. The behavioral issues were something our son truly could not control. They were the product of maladaptive brain development. Yet, for all my campaigning, I couldn't get through to anyone. We are not lazy, irresponsible parents that expect the school to just deal with it. We have had our son in therapy since he was 5. He has been medicated - something I never thought I would do. We have gone through so many misdiagnosis, etc, etc. My grade school aged son, became violent this school year. The school would suspend him, both in-school and out-of-school suspension. I spent more time in his classroom during the Fall semester than he did! I finally was able to get him placed on an IEP, created on the last day of school before the Christmas holiday. Our second grade son attempted suicide just after school started in January. He has not been back to school. He spent time in a psychiatric hospital, went to another facility for a 30-day in-patient neurological/psychological assessment. From there, he went directly into residential treatment. So, what does all this mean? The school knew that our sons psychiatrist was suggesting residential treatment. I had been open with them about everything! They did not want to put him on an IEP because they didn't want to eventually/potentially be on the hook for the expense of residential treatment under the FAPE law. But, that is what is required in order to "fix" his brain. Our insurance is refusing to cover his treatment. Apparently, since he is not suicidal or homicidal at this moment, he is not "sick" enough for residential care. The school district thinks that they have no responsibility for any of these expenses (though the law says that the parents should not have to pay anything), because we didn't go through the step-by-step process to get to the residential treatment approval step. We did what was the safest option for our son. It is costing us $10 - 11k per month. THIS IS WHY the schools don't want to deal with these kids. If it is determined that they should be placed elsewhere, it is a big hassle AND expense for the school. I am as unhappy about how this is handled as the parent of a neuro-typical student is. But our public schools are no longer about quality education, the whole child, or building futures. They are about moving the numbers through. Headcount = $$ We need reform for mental healthcare in this country in every aspect. But for kids, and in relation to education, it is a shame that we accept the sad conditions ALL of our children are subjected to.

Demetrius | 2016/05/09

I understand safety of all children but to say that a child with a learning disability, mood disorder, mental illness has " no educational potential" is just sad. I am so glad that God blessed you all with healthy children. I would wish mental illness on anyone. It is a difficult place to be as a parent. What would you all suggest we do with these kids...I would love to know.

Pa vet teach | 2016/05/01

Are you kidding me? I was looking for some real remedies for a dysfunction district administration that coddles these types of students. The above is WORSE than what our district does now. Guess the rights of the worst students outweigh the other 30 student' rights for a decent safe education.

KMR | 2016/04/29

This page has given me absolutely no answers or solutions to my problems. I have several students w/IEPs who scream threats and swear words non-stop all class period. I am a music teacher and I only see each class once a week. There are 2 classes where I am forced to do absolutely nothing because of the violent, agressive behaviors of 1 or 2 students in the class. All of the others in the class are now deprived of music class because of 2 students in their class. I send them to the office and they end them right back. One of the students will physically not move from wherever he is, even when he is purposely swinging his legs to kick others in the head. Nothing is done, and I am told that there is absolutely nothing I can do unless it gets physical. I'm sorry, but I don't want to wait until it gets physical in order for something to be done. My principal told me that I just have to "ignore" it. Sorry, but that's not possible when the student does not even take a 10-second break from yelling threats at everyone. I asked the principal what I should do then, because the 2 students deprive the others of music class, as I get nothing done due to the 2 students' behavior. The principal's response? "Oh well." This system is a joke. I wonder what the other students' parents would think if they knew that their children were not receiving instruction due to the horrible behavior of 2 students.

Teacher | 2016/04/02

Totally agree with Earl.

helpless mom | 2015/09/01

my son was assaulted physically by a student with long history of violence and IEP has not been sucessful.My sons was threatened again by him that he would bring a gun......the student cant be suspended or disciplined to protect his rights but the other 200 students live in fear of him daily.he threatened a girls life two days before.....i had to remove my kids for their safety......how is this ok?

Parent of a SE teacher | 2015/05/18

For the parent worried about prose style, please consider: The writers all sound like they are teachers dealing with classroom violence from SE students, and they are probably desperately texting from a cell phone and not worried about the phone's decision to use "their" for "there" or proper capitalization or punctuation. The teachers (first responders, here) can't get any help dealing with a growing crisis. Step 1 should be training additional classroom aides to serve one-on-one with known violent students and to employ best practices to avoid triggers or to restrain the student from injury to self or others. I have seen administrators walk away from an incident because they do not know the law or just don't want to take action that might jeopardize their career path.

Rosangela | 2015/05/16

The actions to be taken in order to help the child in distress are great, but what about the other 20 something students, who witnessed the whole situation, that got stripped from their learning time? When the student is physically violent, what to say to the victim, the target of the attack?

Scott hinzmann | 2015/05/15

Our nation has lost its rationality. In our zeal to protect those with minimal educational skills we are sacrificing our gifted students to the detriment of the future of our nation. We are doing away with gifted and talented programs to cater to students with no educational potential. Although that sounds good for humanitarian reasons , it will eventually result in our downfall.

Earl | 2014/12/04

After looking at your your Scenario's have many questions and #3 applies to a friend of mine .But your action part lack info or how to deal with violence when the school admin does nothing about Violence in the work Place when it applies to a IEP student ? The action part does not deal with not giving out name, race religion etc. and being confidential information yet talking to other Parents in the class room who have children in a violent class room. Do you call the IED student Agent Zero? My Friend could not answer questions like is their a Security Team in place and found out their is none .Asked about a code of Conduct and question was not answered . Then asked about a Complaint about work Place Violence reporting and not getting far on that . Then found that a parent in Clark County had taking out a Protection restraining Order on a IEP student who was Harassing her Daughter . Dealing with the School District did not work . A Protection Order worked . The other Students in the class room rights to a safe class room was violated. And have a case where an IEP student took a class room hostage and ripped out the phone line to the School Office .Yet the student has never been sent home for ten days and there is no school security team at all . And a danger letter does not compute . Need a Statute to read because your action part on how to handle the problem is not enough

Dan | 2014/12/03

What is a State - created Danger letter ?

Doug Cline | 2012/09/21

I cannot find a number for legal representation if need be. Can you provide? I am in Plaquemines Parish.

Parent | 2012/08/24

The NEA should be embarrassed by the number of typo's on this page.